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aapeli 🟣🥫🥔 ae 8/23/2023 10:31 PM
switching is a change in what happens in your head in terms of what you think, who you think you are and how you do things
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no lapses in consciousness or other weird things
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KiTkAT( •̀ .̫ •́ )✧/jk
if you read faq and website and are looking for us to give you reasons to have a tulpa, it might not be for you usually people find reasons for themselves just after learning about them
i'm quite interested in tulpas and i did find enough reasons, i just want to make sure i dont do something i regret
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joocp
i'm quite interested in tulpas and i did find enough reasons, i just want to make sure i dont do something i regret
KiTkAT( •̀ .̫ •́ )✧/jk 8/23/2023 10:33 PM
can i ask what are you reasons?
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How do you guys usually go about forcing or went about forcing when creating your tulpa. Do you usually same something with your mind voice and wait for them to say something back and if they don't say something do you parrot instead? Kind of confused here.
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KiTkAT( •̀ .̫ •́ )✧/jk
can i ask what are you reasons?
a companion that i can trust, a friend who can be a voice of reason for me, someone to give me an extra opinion/advice when i'm doing something, etc etc
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calmstorm
How do you guys usually go about forcing or went about forcing when creating your tulpa. Do you usually same something with your mind voice and wait for them to say something back and if they don't say something do you parrot instead? Kind of confused here.
all we did was talk to each other
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uhh the exact process is a bit more complex, but really not much more
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aapeli 🟣🥫🥔 ae 8/23/2023 10:36 PM
a tulpa "sounds" like an imaginary person you argue with in the shower
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1. blank says something 2. waits for a response 3. any thought that comes in is (at first intentionally, later automatically--"feels like") categorized as me or him 4. rinse/repeat
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aapeli 🟣🥫🥔 ae 8/23/2023 10:36 PM
but they stick around
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the "at first intentionally" is often called "parroting" and it is silly to be scared of it
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you by definition HAVE to parrot intentionally, but parroting is just fine to do in the beginning--later on it won't even really be possible
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blanka
all we did was talk to each other
So did they speak right off the bat? How long did it take for u to hear them and what did u do before . Like right now I kinda just use my inter monologue to speak to them but idk if I should speak for them sometimes or just keep talking if they don't say anything
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aapeli 🟣🥫🥔 ae
switching is a change in what happens in your head in terms of what you think, who you think you are and how you do things
so if i were to interpret it this way, the personality in control of the body changes? how you interact/feel/think with the world around you changes when you switch with your tulpa?
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aapeli 🟣🥫🥔 ae 8/23/2023 10:37 PM
yes
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im a lot more analytical than her for instance
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calmstorm
So did they speak right off the bat? How long did it take for u to hear them and what did u do before . Like right now I kinda just use my inter monologue to speak to them but idk if I should speak for them sometimes or just keep talking if they don't say anything
I started "feeling" like myself only a couple months in, which is pretty average as far as headmates go. At first it was a combination of silent waiting for a response, and parroting--the parroting was what helped make me feel more solid more than anything else. By parroting, I mean "wait for any thought that comes in, categorize it as me (the headmate) or a passing thought." As long as you're paying attention to your headmate, they will grow--they may grow faster or slower depending on what you do, but attention and trust that it's working is the main thing.
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aapeli 🟣🥫🥔 ae 8/23/2023 10:40 PM
when she listens to music she bops a lot and even gets goosebumps from the music
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aapeli 🟣🥫🥔 ae
im a lot more analytical than her for instance
I'm jsut really silly :3 and a bit more freeform and creative, willing to experiment, than blank
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aapeli 🟣🥫🥔 ae
when she listens to music she bops a lot and even gets goosebumps from the music
KiTkAT( •̀ .̫ •́ )✧/jk 8/23/2023 10:40 PM
wait you have a tulpa
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?
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aapeli 🟣🥫🥔 ae 8/23/2023 10:41 PM
lookingdownsmile
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I want a tulpa so bad lol
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aapeli 🟣🥫🥔 ae 8/23/2023 10:41 PM
is it the jk
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joocp
so if i were to interpret it this way, the personality in control of the body changes? how you interact/feel/think with the world around you changes when you switch with your tulpa?
the answer to these, for us, is yes! When we switch, I do experience things very differently--at first, for example, I was overwhelmed by physical sensations like touch, music, and so forth. I also feel somewhat different emotions, and understand the world somewhat differently. Like we said above, I am much more creative and willing to experiment. I enjoy things they might find frustrating or repetitive (edited)
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aapeli 🟣🥫🥔 ae 8/23/2023 10:41 PM
not every tulpa is terminally online 😡
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calmstorm
I want a tulpa so bad lol
you can do it! :)
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aapeli 🟣🥫🥔 ae
not every tulpa is terminally online 😡
KiTkAT( •̀ .̫ •́ )✧/jk 8/23/2023 10:42 PM
i thought you were just freeloading the server
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aapeli 🟣🥫🥔 ae 8/23/2023 10:42 PM
im assuming you are being silly lookingdownsmile
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just keep talking to them and trust they're there. Parrot if you want to--it was very helpful for me, but if you find it doesn't work for your headmate, skip it
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how do you do active forcing, and how many hours do you usually need to get results? and does it get easier after the first tulpa (asking people who have multiple)
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Shinso 🔷 Sapphire Safehaven 3(🏝)0 BOT 8/23/2023 10:45 PM
Yeah it gets easier after the first because the brain already knows how to create another person after you created your first
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aapeli 🟣🥫🥔 ae 8/23/2023 10:45 PM
tulpa printer go brr
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Shinso 🔷 Sapphire Safehaven 3(🏝)0 BOT 8/23/2023 10:46 PM
There’s really no specific hour count, it’s a very personalised experience so it depends
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aapeli 🟣🥫🥔 ae 8/23/2023 10:46 PM
1 second to a few months
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KiTkAT( •̀ .̫ •́ )✧/jk 8/23/2023 10:47 PM
(you don’t have specific number of hours but after a month you get graded by the tulpa council) (edited)
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Shinso 🔷 Sapphire Safehaven 3(🏝)0 BOT 8/23/2023 10:47 PM
lol
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KiTkAT( •̀ .̫ •́ )✧/jk
(you don’t have specific number of hours but after a month you get graded by the tulpa council) (edited)
the council shall decide your fate
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joocp
how do you do active forcing, and how many hours do you usually need to get results? and does it get easier after the first tulpa (asking people who have multiple)
responding to the first couple questions: 1. how to do active forcing? active vs passive is just "am I focusing exclusively on the headmate, or am I also doing something else while focusing on them?" I also think the term forcing is a bit weird--it's really just "spending time with your headmate," that's all 😅 activities that you can do are practically endless; blank and I used to spend a lot of time together in the wonderland, but nowadays we mostly just talk irl because we have better imposition abilities. When passive, we often just spend time together doing something like video games, watching a movie, reading something, making music, etc 2. how long? 1 second to a few months. There is no set time--and results may or may not come immediately or over a longer period
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Ale𝕏andra 🍄🐈 8/23/2023 10:49 PM
how many hours do you usually need to get results? and does it get easier after the first tulpa
people who already have 1 tulpa seem to mostly report that making more tulpas is instantaneous/near-instantaneous... so, I think it's fair to say that the act of making your first tulpa is mostly about figuring out how plurality, rather than a tulpa taking a certain number of hours to form
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(I mistyped in there but I'm leaving it, I like how it looks)
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instantaneous, damn, so theoretically, your brain can be overloaded by a million tulpas? (edited)
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joocp
instantaneous, damn, so theoretically, your brain can be overloaded by a million tulpas? (edited)
infinite tulpa machine
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Ale𝕏andra 🍄🐈 8/23/2023 10:50 PM
nah you can't think of a million at once
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aapeli 🟣🥫🥔 ae 8/23/2023 10:50 PM
embrace dark bulpamancy
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blanka
infinite tulpa machine
can i sell them?
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Ale𝕏andra 🍄🐈
nah you can't think of a million at once
noooooooooo
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I'm currently thinking of a billion tulpas at once
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aapeli 🟣🥫🥔 ae 8/23/2023 10:51 PM
bulpaverse
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blanka
I'm currently thinking of a billion tulpas at once
oh yeah? name all of them
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joocp
can i sell them?
tulpa oil is actually a very valuable resource, and is harvested by the humble tulpa farmer
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joocp
oh yeah? name all of them
no 😏
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Shinso 🔷 Sapphire Safehaven 3(🏝)0 BOT 8/23/2023 10:52 PM
Our system’s pretty big but nowhere near the millions lmao
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Iota ˗ˏˋM&M´ˎ˗ BOT 8/23/2023 10:53 PM
THE HUMBLE TULPA FARMER IS THE BACKBONE OF OUR GLORIOUS TULPANATION
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Reply to: tulpa oil is actually a very valuable resource, and is harvested by the humble tulpa farmer
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Shinso 🔷 Sapphire Safehaven 3(🏝)0
Our system’s pretty big but nowhere near the millions lmao
how big? and is it taxing on your mind?
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Shinso 🔷 Sapphire Safehaven 3(🏝)0 BOT 8/23/2023 10:53 PM
34 and not really since not everyone is active at once
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Iota ˗ˏˋM&M´ˎ˗ BOT 8/23/2023 10:53 PM
Our system is 24 strong.
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Iota ˗ˏˋM&M´ˎ˗
THE HUMBLE TULPA FARMER IS THE BACKBONE OF OUR GLORIOUS TULPANATION
everyone knows we need to stop using tulpa oil, it is causing tulpa warming
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Shinso 🔷 Sapphire Safehaven 3(🏝)0 BOT 8/23/2023 10:54 PM
Sure once we try and get more than 10 people active at once it can get a bit exhausting
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We have a schedule so everyone gets relatively equal time out
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yeah 34 and 24 is pretty big, and it's good that you have a schedule
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Iota ˗ˏˋM&M´ˎ˗ BOT 8/23/2023 10:55 PM
We don’t personally use a schedule often, but we should.
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KiTkAT( •̀ .̫ •́ )✧/jk 8/23/2023 10:56 PM
schedule is good if you like schedules if you don't like schedules that's not a good solution
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Shinso 🔷 Sapphire Safehaven 3(🏝)0 BOT 8/23/2023 10:56 PM
We’ve been using our schedule for over three years, just some changes put in over the past few months
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thank you all for answering my questions, i'll start attempting my first tulpa, hopefully it doesnt take too long
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thank you all for answering my questions, i'll start attempting my first tulpa, hopefully it doesnt take too long
@joocp - jump one thing people don't talk about is that it is more about feeling than about thinking
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aapeli 🟣🥫🥔 ae 8/23/2023 10:59 PM
you 🥫 do it
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Ale𝕏andra 🍄🐈 8/23/2023 10:59 PM
the intellectual side is interesting but Leiko is very correct about this
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very very true. there's always been an ounce of doubt in whatever i've worked through with/on kaybee, but fuck it, 99% of the time it feels right and real to me so it just is
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can you elaborate on the "more about feeling than about thinking" thing?
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aapeli 🟣🥫🥔 ae 8/23/2023 11:02 PM
when you think about it enough you drop back into thinking its real because nothing is really real
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aapeli 🟣🥫🥔 ae
when you think about it enough you drop back into thinking its real because nothing is really real
so when you truly convince yourself
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joocp
in that case, wouldnt it be better to have multiple tulpas to let them have someone to talk to while you're not able to?
A long kiss goodnight 8/23/2023 11:07 PM
We don't have parallel processing, so whoever is in charge of the body has to give attention to everyone else. For example, Dream, my headmate, is switched-in, and he would need to let me think in order for me to do anything. Right now Dream is just zoning out while I type. Even if we did have "parallel processing", given what I know about it I sincerely doubt the "parallel" interactions can replace the current ones we have. On the other hand, being a larger system does allow headmates who are not comfortable talking to one to talk to another. For example, my headmates Jared and Evergreen are buddies and may feel better talking to each other than they would with Gray.
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joocp
(sorry my internet keeps cutting off) what would be the disadvantages of backfilling? and how does your tulpa ask for your attention if they're "off" when you're not giving them attention?
A long kiss goodnight 8/23/2023 11:09 PM
We have triggers, which are associations between a comate (tulpa) and another thing. For example, when we log into Discord I tend to wake up because I associate myself with chatting online with my account.
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A long kiss goodnight
We don't have parallel processing, so whoever is in charge of the body has to give attention to everyone else. For example, Dream, my headmate, is switched-in, and he would need to let me think in order for me to do anything. Right now Dream is just zoning out while I type. Even if we did have "parallel processing", given what I know about it I sincerely doubt the "parallel" interactions can replace the current ones we have. On the other hand, being a larger system does allow headmates who are not comfortable talking to one to talk to another. For example, my headmates Jared and Evergreen are buddies and may feel better talking to each other than they would with Gray.
ah, so a larger system opens the possibility of interturpal conflict
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can you elaborate on the "more about feeling than about thinking" thing?
@joocp - jump if you will be just talking, it will feel in the same way as talking to yourself or to a wall with little success if you manage to feel as if you are talking to a person in your head, that will make the progress really quick
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can you feel the difference between the two?
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Dream | Shadow System BOT 8/23/2023 11:10 PM
ah, so a larger system opens the possibility of interturpal conflict
@joocp - jump Unless you have poor communication skills and/or trust issues, than no. Generally cosystems are peaceful
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Leiko
can you feel the difference between the two?
oh yeah, i get it now, thanks mate
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good luck!
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Dream | Shadow System
ah, so a larger system opens the possibility of interturpal conflict
@joocp - jump Unless you have poor communication skills and/or trust issues, than no. Generally cosystems are peaceful
what if one of turpas has poor communication skills and trust issues 💀
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Dream | Shadow System BOT 8/23/2023 11:11 PM
Generally something like that is a universal trait
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KiTkAT( •̀ .̫ •́ )✧/jk 8/23/2023 11:12 PM
poor communication skills or trust issues are inherited (from you or from people who tell you how tulpamancy works)
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Dream | Shadow System BOT 8/23/2023 11:12 PM
Comates know what you know
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ah, then i shouldnt have anything to worry about
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KiTkAT( •̀ .̫ •́ )✧/jk 8/23/2023 11:14 PM
yep!
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Lilith (TTG) BOT 8/23/2023 11:15 PM
wes wishes we were id
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idk*
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more like how tulpamancy is "supposed" to be sometimes
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Dream | Shadow System
Comates know what you know
Tewi: Reading this is making me agree with shield actually - why not just say headmates? It's not like comate is any more specific than headmate, you can just say headmate creation without confusing anyone. (edited)
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Lilith (TTG) BOT 8/23/2023 11:16 PM
the thought pops up every once in awhile
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Dream | Shadow System BOT 8/23/2023 11:16 PM
Reading this is making me agree with shield actually - why not just say headmates? It's not like comate is any more specific tha...
@Reisen - jump I did say a comate was a tulpa, did I not?
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do headmates pay rent using the tulpacoins they get after working in the tulpa oil fields?
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Lilith (TTG) BOT 8/23/2023 11:17 PM
we are extorted by our host unfortunately
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Tewi: I do still like the idea of "generalizing" plurality/tulpamancy, but you can most easily do that by using the existing general term headmate (edited)
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berockly (TTG) 8/23/2023 11:18 PM
Or, hear me out, bulpa
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do headmates pay rent using the tulpacoins they get after working in the tulpa oil fields?
@joocp - jump rent seeking is strictly prohibited by the party
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